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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://hoguenews.com/?p=5177#comment-5889</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 08:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ebay&#039;s disclaimer of third party liability is obviously above the law of taxation and for that matter any fraud or theft that may occur while representing it&#039;s customers online.  Fed and State attorney has had it&#039;s hands full with Ebays crimes of fraud and theft for years, but it continues without any fear of prosecution.  But this is not just about taxation, Meg Whitman has spent millions at the chance of siting in the Gov chair.  I&#039;ve voted the last 9 presidential elections and I&#039;ve learned that when a prospective candidate fails to disclose thier past there&#039;s usually a reason.   People will vote without any thought of what that person has been up to and what their agenda for your future holds.  I believe California&#039;s problems are bigger than any one person can change,  I believe it started in the 70&#039;s with prop 13. the majority of people who purchased thier homes back then are now elderly and living on fixed incomes.  But the new home buyer will pay more than 3 grand a year in taxes while his neighbor pays 250 dollars, and the local city is becoming a demilitarized zone because one person in 10 is trying to make up for lack of funding, while paying 4 times in state employment taxes.  For California to get above water your current taxation will have to more than quadrupel.  People are leaving CA. for a more effordable living and those staying are buying motorhomes for a future for thier children.  CA.  currently leads the nation in unemployment, overtaxation and homelessness.  And we worry about illegal aliens!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ebay&#8217;s disclaimer of third party liability is obviously above the law of taxation and for that matter any fraud or theft that may occur while representing it&#8217;s customers online.  Fed and State attorney has had it&#8217;s hands full with Ebays crimes of fraud and theft for years, but it continues without any fear of prosecution.  But this is not just about taxation, Meg Whitman has spent millions at the chance of siting in the Gov chair.  I&#8217;ve voted the last 9 presidential elections and I&#8217;ve learned that when a prospective candidate fails to disclose thier past there&#8217;s usually a reason.   People will vote without any thought of what that person has been up to and what their agenda for your future holds.  I believe California&#8217;s problems are bigger than any one person can change,  I believe it started in the 70&#8242;s with prop 13. the majority of people who purchased thier homes back then are now elderly and living on fixed incomes.  But the new home buyer will pay more than 3 grand a year in taxes while his neighbor pays 250 dollars, and the local city is becoming a demilitarized zone because one person in 10 is trying to make up for lack of funding, while paying 4 times in state employment taxes.  For California to get above water your current taxation will have to more than quadrupel.  People are leaving CA. for a more effordable living and those staying are buying motorhomes for a future for thier children.  CA.  currently leads the nation in unemployment, overtaxation and homelessness.  And we worry about illegal aliens!</p>
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		<title>By: Æ</title>
		<link>http://hoguenews.com/?p=5177#comment-1240</link>
		<dc:creator>Æ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Whitman wants to &quot;get the economy moving&quot; or &quot;create&quot; private sector jobs, she should propose policies such as: suspend (or at least drastically reduce) the income tax for 1 year, end any state programs designed to prop up asset prices, and work to end some of the more egregious social welfare programs (like Meathead&#039;s First Five). Those might have a chance of doing some good. Every dollar returned to the private sector - which produced it in the first place - is a dollar that can be invested in new business ventures. Savings=investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Whitman wants to &#8220;get the economy moving&#8221; or &#8220;create&#8221; private sector jobs, she should propose policies such as: suspend (or at least drastically reduce) the income tax for 1 year, end any state programs designed to prop up asset prices, and work to end some of the more egregious social welfare programs (like Meathead&#8217;s First Five). Those might have a chance of doing some good. Every dollar returned to the private sector &#8211; which produced it in the first place &#8211; is a dollar that can be invested in new business ventures. Savings=investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in Sacramento</title>
		<link>http://hoguenews.com/?p=5177#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in Sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to find anyone running for Governor of California who will be able to fix the mess we are in.  Arnold was nothing more then a Bulked up Girly Man who lost every battle after he agreed not to smoke his cigar inside his Office.

Any one who can find a way around our IRS code (EBAY) should be seen as a Patriot who cares about our Constitution (FORMER Law of the Land) over stealing the people’s money to buy votes for them selves.

I would like to give Meg 100 points for finding away around the Tax Code but it is just not true. Meg found every way possible to charge for everything on EBAY.  I have sold things on EBAY in the past and after all was said and done I was negative $11.00 once. 

Steve Posser sounds like Jerry Brown as Jerry Brown is sounding like Ron Reagan.

As long as the State House continues to collect our Taxes every April 15th and we continue to elect people who can buy the election as Governor we will be screwed.  
Think about it this way. Meg said on the Eric Hogue show she would spend 100 million dollars to buy a job that pays how much?
Guess I am missing something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to find anyone running for Governor of California who will be able to fix the mess we are in.  Arnold was nothing more then a Bulked up Girly Man who lost every battle after he agreed not to smoke his cigar inside his Office.</p>
<p>Any one who can find a way around our IRS code (EBAY) should be seen as a Patriot who cares about our Constitution (FORMER Law of the Land) over stealing the people’s money to buy votes for them selves.</p>
<p>I would like to give Meg 100 points for finding away around the Tax Code but it is just not true. Meg found every way possible to charge for everything on EBAY.  I have sold things on EBAY in the past and after all was said and done I was negative $11.00 once. </p>
<p>Steve Posser sounds like Jerry Brown as Jerry Brown is sounding like Ron Reagan.</p>
<p>As long as the State House continues to collect our Taxes every April 15th and we continue to elect people who can buy the election as Governor we will be screwed.<br />
Think about it this way. Meg said on the Eric Hogue show she would spend 100 million dollars to buy a job that pays how much?<br />
Guess I am missing something.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hogue</title>
		<link>http://hoguenews.com/?p=5177#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Hogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik,

A few points; I don&#039;t believe either candidate should be promising &quot;jobs&quot;, they should be promising leadership that &#039;allows for profits&#039;. Then you will see new jobs. On the charges here of tax evasion; they are weak, very weak. Meg&#039;s eBay is not a state &#039;retailer&#039;, and the sales tax is only applied at the end of the final sales, from the &quot;seller&quot; to the &quot;buyer&quot;. Once again, eBay is neither of those in this event. There is no tax evasion here, there is only a question of individuals who do not show responsibility toward state tax law. Meg was right in not giving over the materials - next it will be the home association forced to give over details of those residents who participated in the neighborhood garage sale. Just wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik,</p>
<p>A few points; I don&#8217;t believe either candidate should be promising &#8220;jobs&#8221;, they should be promising leadership that &#8216;allows for profits&#8217;. Then you will see new jobs. On the charges here of tax evasion; they are weak, very weak. Meg&#8217;s eBay is not a state &#8216;retailer&#8217;, and the sales tax is only applied at the end of the final sales, from the &#8220;seller&#8221; to the &#8220;buyer&#8221;. Once again, eBay is neither of those in this event. There is no tax evasion here, there is only a question of individuals who do not show responsibility toward state tax law. Meg was right in not giving over the materials &#8211; next it will be the home association forced to give over details of those residents who participated in the neighborhood garage sale. Just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Æ</title>
		<link>http://hoguenews.com/?p=5177#comment-1185</link>
		<dc:creator>Æ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing like giving voice to insignificant charges, before giving Whitman a pass at the very end of the post. I am too libertarian to be a supporter, however, I am stunned at the meek dismissal of &quot;charges&quot; here. I am not  fan of Whitman; I am skeptical of  promise to &quot;create&quot; private sector jobs as governor. I may have to rethink my position.
She refused to assist in government tax collection: great! That is the biggest point in her favor that I have heard to date. Why should eBay be responsible for such things? I would think less of her if she had complied with the BOE and dutifully handed over her client list.
So she didn&#039;t vote. Show me a candidate in the last 20 years -other than McClintock -  unwavering in his/her support for free enterprise (worth voting for in other words). That her interest has been reawakened only points to a) her own desire for power, or b) how off-course she perceives this state to be (what was not a priority has become one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing like giving voice to insignificant charges, before giving Whitman a pass at the very end of the post. I am too libertarian to be a supporter, however, I am stunned at the meek dismissal of &#8220;charges&#8221; here. I am not  fan of Whitman; I am skeptical of  promise to &#8220;create&#8221; private sector jobs as governor. I may have to rethink my position.<br />
She refused to assist in government tax collection: great! That is the biggest point in her favor that I have heard to date. Why should eBay be responsible for such things? I would think less of her if she had complied with the BOE and dutifully handed over her client list.<br />
So she didn&#8217;t vote. Show me a candidate in the last 20 years -other than McClintock &#8211;  unwavering in his/her support for free enterprise (worth voting for in other words). That her interest has been reawakened only points to a) her own desire for power, or b) how off-course she perceives this state to be (what was not a priority has become one).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://hoguenews.com/?p=5177#comment-1183</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if it is true that people who sell their used jeans on ebay should collect and forward sales tax, is it also true that people who sell their used jeans at a neighborhood garage sale should collect and forward sales tax? I wonder how many garage sale patrons pay sales tax? I wonder how many garage sale holders collect and forward sales tax to the state? I wonder why Mr. Hague asks so many questions in his opinion piece? I wonder how many opinion writers Mr. Poizner has on his campaign payroll?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if it is true that people who sell their used jeans on ebay should collect and forward sales tax, is it also true that people who sell their used jeans at a neighborhood garage sale should collect and forward sales tax? I wonder how many garage sale patrons pay sales tax? I wonder how many garage sale holders collect and forward sales tax to the state? I wonder why Mr. Hague asks so many questions in his opinion piece? I wonder how many opinion writers Mr. Poizner has on his campaign payroll?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron F Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron F Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not an issue about the tax laws. It is a classic issue about Whitman&#039;s leadership of Ebay - ignore what in inconvenient and take half-measures to keep up an appearance.

Not everything legal is ethical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not an issue about the tax laws. It is a classic issue about Whitman&#8217;s leadership of Ebay &#8211; ignore what in inconvenient and take half-measures to keep up an appearance.</p>
<p>Not everything legal is ethical.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that is not specified in the article, but items purchased for resale are exempt from sales tax (the sales tax is shifted when the sale is made to an end-user).  There are many companies that do this, especially for high-ticket items.  And in effect it increases the sales tax revenue when this occurs (as well as adds jobs).  Let me outline an example.  Customer Joe goes to Fred&#039;s auto shop to buy a part for his &#039;57 Chevy.  Fred does not have the part.  Fred goes to Pat&#039;s Auto part store that does not have part.  Pat goes on eBay and purchases part from Clyde&#039;s Chevrolet in Cleveland.  Pat sells the part to Fred.  Fred sells the part to Joe.  At the transaction where Fred sells the part to Joe, sales tax is collected.  

In this context, without an eBay, either the transaction may have never happened, and three companies would not have done business.  This sort of business takes place more often than you may think.  In the networking world (for example) look up Cisco on eBay.  There are thousands of items for sale that would not be purchased by the average consumer, and the people that buy and sell the parts are doing hundreds of transactions not just one(kind of like dealing in a commodoties market).   

Beyond not completing understanding the full dynamics of eBay, it concerns me that a Poizner supporter of some repute (Bill Leonard) would appear to compromise Conservative core values (government intrusion in commerce) for ambition for power.

One other question that should be asked, can they show that sales tax revenue has gone down since the creation of eBay... or has it gone up?  How do they quantify the billions of dollars of &quot;lost tax revenue&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that is not specified in the article, but items purchased for resale are exempt from sales tax (the sales tax is shifted when the sale is made to an end-user).  There are many companies that do this, especially for high-ticket items.  And in effect it increases the sales tax revenue when this occurs (as well as adds jobs).  Let me outline an example.  Customer Joe goes to Fred&#8217;s auto shop to buy a part for his &#8217;57 Chevy.  Fred does not have the part.  Fred goes to Pat&#8217;s Auto part store that does not have part.  Pat goes on eBay and purchases part from Clyde&#8217;s Chevrolet in Cleveland.  Pat sells the part to Fred.  Fred sells the part to Joe.  At the transaction where Fred sells the part to Joe, sales tax is collected.  </p>
<p>In this context, without an eBay, either the transaction may have never happened, and three companies would not have done business.  This sort of business takes place more often than you may think.  In the networking world (for example) look up Cisco on eBay.  There are thousands of items for sale that would not be purchased by the average consumer, and the people that buy and sell the parts are doing hundreds of transactions not just one(kind of like dealing in a commodoties market).   </p>
<p>Beyond not completing understanding the full dynamics of eBay, it concerns me that a Poizner supporter of some repute (Bill Leonard) would appear to compromise Conservative core values (government intrusion in commerce) for ambition for power.</p>
<p>One other question that should be asked, can they show that sales tax revenue has gone down since the creation of eBay&#8230; or has it gone up?  How do they quantify the billions of dollars of &#8220;lost tax revenue&#8221;?</p>
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